Comments on: Your food sucks! http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/09/27/your-food-sucks/ for friends of University Bible Fellowship Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:34:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.1 By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/09/27/your-food-sucks/#comment-15397 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:45:57 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8394#comment-15397 Hard listen to others because they may be wrong but can listen to God if the Spirit helps find true good meaning

]]> By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/09/27/your-food-sucks/#comment-15393 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:30:03 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8394#comment-15393 Hallelujah; now the Spirit can make us shame free..

]]> By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/09/27/your-food-sucks/#comment-15387 Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:03:43 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8394#comment-15387 Yes, Ben, it may be easy to dismiss the obvious solution to most problems: love. But it is so hard to do. I find that we often need someone to point out the obvious.

]]> By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/09/27/your-food-sucks/#comment-15386 Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:02:12 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8394#comment-15386 Mark, those are things I had in mind… What “food” does your church offer? How is your church serving people, especially people not from your church? How transparent are your church’s leaders, i.e. do they hid their dirty laundry or are they vulnerable, accountable and approachable?

The “food” issue was a major point of contention during the Toledo ubf collapse. We were supposed to keep regurgitating the same old lectures, derived from SL’s lectures, over and over again. We were supposed to just look the other way when the Sunday lectures were used as a public shaming mechanism.

Most of us concluded that we just could not keep eating such crap.

]]> By: Ben Toh http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/09/27/your-food-sucks/#comment-15382 Sun, 28 Sep 2014 00:44:30 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8394#comment-15382 I’ve heard (and read) countless notable church leaders and leadership books say virtually the exact same thing: the starting point of turning around a declining church is to face the painful truth about your church…with your church.

It starts by listening not to themselves (like the declining restaurants, they think everything’s fine!), but to others. Until that happens, things cannot but continue as they have been, which is downhill. This is just what many books and leaders say.

]]> By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/09/27/your-food-sucks/#comment-15377 Sat, 27 Sep 2014 15:41:51 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8394#comment-15377 maybe a religious corollary is:
good food=helpful word of God
good service=helpful conduct
cleanliness=sincerity/authenticity

may the Spirit guide us to God’s words and help us interpret God’s meaning for good purpose

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