Comments on: A Different Type of Shepherd http://www.ubfriends.org/2015/09/28/a-different-type-of-shepherd/ for friends of University Bible Fellowship Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:34:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.1 By: MJ Peace http://www.ubfriends.org/2015/09/28/a-different-type-of-shepherd/#comment-19627 Fri, 02 Oct 2015 21:07:25 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=9631#comment-19627 “We find Chesterton taking the view that rationalism and science have inaccurately become unquestionable, yet have extended beyond what they can accomplish. . . Romanticism taught me there was more, but not where it might be found.”

Orthodoxy is sitting on my book shelf waiting to be read, as is the copy of Augustine’s Confessions, that I stole from you. Anyways, it is so fascinating for me to learn the specific books that convert people to Christianity. For you it’s Chesterton. For one of my friend’s it was Kierkegaard’s “Training in Christianity.” For others it was C.S. Lewis or Tim Keller or John Piper. Or it might have been a camping trip in Canada, like it was for my mom. Or it was a certain person, like a roommate. Or it might have been a word picture or a vision. It’s so interesting how everyone’s journey to Christ and journey of discipleship is so unique. But I agree with Chesterton that rationalism and science should not become unquestionable; they cannot be. I love how C.S. Lewis words it:

“Science works by experiments. It watches how things behave. Every scientific statement in the long run, however complicated it looks, really means something like, ‘I pointed the telescope to such and such a part of the sky at 2:20 a.m. on January 15th and saw so-and-so,’ or, ‘I put some of this stuff in a pot and heated it to such-and-such a temperature and it did so-and-so.’ Do not think I am saying anything against science: I am only saying what its job is.

And the more scientific a man is, the more (I believe) he would agree with me that this is the job of science–and a very useful and necessary job it is too. But why anything comes to be there at all, and whether there is anything behind the things science observes–something of a different kind–this is not a scientific question. If there is ‘Something Behind,’ then either it will have to remain altogether unknown to men or else make itself known in some different way. The statement that there is any such thing, and the statement that there is no such thing, are neither of them statements that science can make. And real scientists do not usually make them. It is usually the journalists and popular novelists who have picked up a few odds and ends of half-baked science from textbooks who go in for them. After all, it is really a matter of common sense. Supposing science ever became complete so that it knew every single thing in the whole universe. Is it not plain that the questions, ‘Why is there a universe?’ ‘Why does it go on as it does?’ ‘Has it any meaning?’ would remain just as they were?”

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By: Joe Schafer http://www.ubfriends.org/2015/09/28/a-different-type-of-shepherd/#comment-19580 Mon, 28 Sep 2015 23:39:40 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=9631#comment-19580 For those who may not know Chesterton: He was a Roman Catholic scholar whose work and influence were instrumental in the conversion of C.S. Lewis.

About 35 years ago, Chesterton’s book The Everlasting Man had a great impact on me, and it has stayed with me ever since.

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By: Joe Schafer http://www.ubfriends.org/2015/09/28/a-different-type-of-shepherd/#comment-19579 Mon, 28 Sep 2015 23:35:56 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=9631#comment-19579 Great article.

“I am more and more convinced that discipleship does not need to occur between two living people – See more at: http://www.ubfriends.org/2015/09/28/a-different-type-of-shepherd/#sthash.pC0Okngj.dpuf

The first Christians had a term for this. It was so important to them that it was included in the Apostles’ Creed: “the communion of saints.”

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