Comments on: Ezekiel: A prophet to the righteous

By: BrianK

BrianK — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:12:57 +0000

I really have no idea how ubf leadership views these changes. The only thing that has makes sense is that they are happy as long as they maintain authority and have increasing numbers. They don’t really even seem to care so much about money, as long as there is authority and numbers.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:18:19 +0000

That’s cool. UBF will probably see this as a failure, because they do not form one big organization, but in reality it’s a big win.

By: BrianK

BrianK — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:56:02 +0000

Chris, the things you point out are some of the reasons why I am convinced that reform is no longer possible in ubf. I believe God wants to build an entirely new ministry. In fact, this has been going on already. Quite a few ubf chapters have the historical ubf fellowship and a new, student-based fellowship on campus. This is called “Narrow Gate”, or “Seed” or things like that. Those new ministries seem to be doing much better and often are where you will find the “second gens”.

Also, some ubf chapters, such as Westloop, are in the process of completely re-inventing themselves from a works centered ministry to be a grace centered ministry.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:16:10 +0000

In the large “Reform UBF” conference of 2001, Paul Laska used the Valley of the Dry Bones as a picture of UBF at that time, and we held the same vision that it could become alive one day again. Unfortunately, this vision cannot become true unless UBF triely repents, and it does not look like they will ever do that. Even in the reform conference, since Paul only spoke allegorically, some didn’t understand that UBF itself was the dry bones, and instead after his sermon continued to pray for the students on the campus to become alive. They just didn’t get it, they had such a fixed world-view. Obviously we need to speak more clearly to make hardcore UBFers understand.

“How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”

By: BrianK

BrianK — Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:41:06 +0000

By the way, no need to panic: I do NOT think I am a prophet! The book of Ezekiel has just been coming up at certain times the past 10 years or so and really resonates with me now.