Comments on: Suicides http://www.priestlynation.com/suicides/ my journey of recovery from University Bible Fellowship Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:34:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6.1 By: briank http://www.priestlynation.com/suicides/#comment-1197 Thu, 03 May 2012 02:10:11 +0000 http://www.priestlynation.com/?p=964#comment-1197 Instead of dismissing these events, I think we should be driven to compassion:

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By: David Bychkov http://www.priestlynation.com/suicides/#comment-1151 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:19:13 +0000 http://www.priestlynation.com/?p=964#comment-1151 Yeah, when I watched video or read about JW family who refused of doing blood tranfusion for their own lovely child in face of the death, I realized that I could undestand them quite well. And I was close to their action in my own faith and obedience decisions. It was painful but so sobering experience.

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By: briank http://www.priestlynation.com/suicides/#comment-1150 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:01:59 +0000 http://www.priestlynation.com/?p=964#comment-1150 Well said, Chris. Anyone who has gone through the shunning/exit process of UBF understands what you are saying. The UBF solution to all life’s problems is to do more one-to-one or to do more fishing or write more sogams. This unbalanced view is leads to an inward focus and rejection of conscience.

This week I realized that UBF’s refusal of counseling is really no different from the JW’s refusal of blood transfusions.

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By: Chris http://www.priestlynation.com/suicides/#comment-1148 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:38:15 +0000 http://www.priestlynation.com/?p=964#comment-1148 There were also many cases of UBFers (both sheep and shepherds) who made suicide attempts or “went insane” in some way.

I think most of these cases have in common that these people were mentally instable in some way or another (which is not amazing because UBF os particularly attractive to insecure and lonely students with low self esteem and those in crisis mode), and they were disappointed about their own performance in spiritual life and/or university life.

It’s hard to say if or how much of their problems were induced by UBF, but in many cases the problems were surely aggravated by feeding them with UBFism instead of giving them proper counseling. Their mental problems were not seen as an illness, but as a spiritual weakness or caused by a demon. So they were not handed over to doctors or experts, but it was believed that if sheep just accept Jesus and make UBF bible study, or if shepherds just continue to write sogams and cowork in UBF and feed sheep, their personal difficulties would disappear. UBF “shepherds” do not have any education in “counseling”, they neither understand the problems of such sheep nor can they help them in any appropriate way.

Also, we know how UBF instills an idea of “greatness” about the life of UBF members. If they can’t reach that “greatness”, and if they feel abandoned by God, or believe they commited sins that God can’t forgive, it’s very easy to develop suicidal thoughts. It even happened to me when I had a blockade in my university study and at the same time was kicked out from UBF for not being obedient enough.

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