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UBF should have protected but disputed speech on campus

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If my memory is correct the Pastor made a very bad decision that nearly resulted in the group losing it’s club status on campus although I thought they might be going to be banned from campus at the time.  I was not attending group meetings at this time but heard about it from a third party.  I wrote this article on my opinion of banning UBF from campuses at that time.  I am tempted to say my views on marriage by faith were naive then based on my writing but I also wrote an article refuting it and I think I simply did not put as much nuance as I should have and should have included the word “fraud,” in describing marriage by faith.  At the time I remember telling someone they should openly put on their recruitment literature and websites, “we do arranged marriages and do not allow dating if you join our group,” and then I would be OK with what they were doing provided they give that and certain other information up front.  I do not know what part 2 was going to be.

The article is below.  I wrote it in 2015 and edited it in 2018 February

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I can be greater than Samuel Lee if I do not copy him

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When they had crossed, Elijah said to Elisha, “Tell me, what can I do for you before I am taken from you?”

“Let me inherit a double portion of your spirit,” Elisha replied.

10 “You have asked a difficult thing,” Elijah said, “yet if you see me when I am taken from you, it will be yours—otherwise, it will not.”

11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heavenin a whirlwind.

2 Kings 9:11 NIV

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Why courtship is fundamentally flawed

 

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There was much talk of courtship being ok but dating being bad at my Chapter shortly before I leftI.  Ironically someone was rebuked for finding a girlfriend even though they told me courting was ok.  They were into I kissed dating goodbye, by Joshua Harris and said Billy Graham courted his wife.  Here is a good article about what is wrong with courtship by someone else.  And another two articles about the author of the book repenting that is having a change of mind.

Why Courtship is Fundamentally Flawed

“http://www.thomasumstattd.com/2014/08/courtship-fundamentally-flawed/”

https://www.christianpost.com/news/abstinence-author-pastor-joshua-harris-apologizes-for-telling-christians-not-to-date-in-i-kissed-dating-goodbye-168650/

https://www.npr.org/2016/07/10/485432485/former-evangelical-pastor-rethinks-his-approach-to-courtshipI

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Kissed_Dating_Goodby

Recovering from UBF personal application hermeneutics

Title: Discipleship Methods within UBF

Purpose of this article:  To show the difference between the principles I was taught in the outer layer of UBF which were in many (but not all) ways good except for a lack of objectivity and what I later learned from Samuel lee loyalists in the inner layer of UBF which suppressed the authentic discipleship style I was taught earlier within the same organization!  I also wish to make suggestions for how to increase objectivity in Bible study, which might help improve the discipleship process in an area that was lacking.

Disclaimer: It is a problematic oversimplification to put UBF members into two camps but it saves much writing space just keep in mind that people are more complicated than I explain they might behave like Samuel Lee loyalists in one situation but not in another and might be only partly loyal to Samuel Lee rather than completely loyal.

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What is wrong with UBF private revelation about marriage

20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things.21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+peter+1&version=NIV

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I put up a old article I wrote years ago (but never before published) on what is wrong with using private revelation to determine a marriage partner and yet simultaneously claiming to use the Bible as a guide on my blog, the link is below.  It is very thorough and a worthwhile read for using the Bible to contradict the marriage by faith doctrine.

 

https://marriagebyfaith.blogspot.com/2018/02/what-is-wrong-with-ubf-private.html

Offended by teaching the truth too early

This Is My Response To The Recent Feedback From Current Members Complaining About Ex Members Misrepresenting UBF

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Now the Mormons have a free mason legacy through Joseph Smith.  Like University Bible Fellowship some Mormons get offended if you teach the sacred(secret) Mormon teachings before the proper time in the recruitment process.

https://improvingubfotherarticles.blogspot.com/2018/02/university-bible-fellowship-is-like.html

 

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