{"id":1826,"date":"2016-12-31T11:39:20","date_gmt":"2016-12-31T16:39:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/?p=1826"},"modified":"2017-01-16T17:10:15","modified_gmt":"2017-01-16T22:10:15","slug":"reformation-vs-arrestment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ubfriends.org\/ubfriends2015\/reformation-vs-arrestment\/","title":{"rendered":"Reformation vs Arrestment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/mortgageengineer.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/mortgage-broker-versus-bank.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"346\" height=\"345\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Should UBF be reformed or shut down for good?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><!--more Where is this going?--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">To reiterate the question the question should we attempt to change the UBF system or shut down the UBF system for good? There has been four attempts at <a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/four-reform-events\/\">reforming UBF<\/a> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/the-four-reform-movements-follow-up-article\/\">follow up<\/a>. And there were some successes such as spreading awareness of issues, meeting new people, and simply having discussions.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I personally believe that UBF should be shut down for good for the following reasons:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">the false gospel Leeism a.k.a UBFism is still being preached<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">Loyalty, Submission (blind), and Disciple [L.S.D] is still being pushed<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">People are still getting spiritually killed<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">UBF has become the very thing they detest: Pharisees<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>This is evident with two of the &#8220;reform&#8221; chapters: El Camino UBF and CSUN UBF. Check out this <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20030215004514\/http:\/\/www.ubf-info.de\/int\/rep\/jamesvaldez2002.en.htm\">testimony<\/a> from a former CSUN UBF chapter member.<\/p>\n<p>As for the El Camino UBF chapter check out the following articles:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/message-review-el-camino-ubf\/\">http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/message-review-el-camino-ubf\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/never-h-o-t-always-c-o-l-d\/\">http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/never-h-o-t-always-c-o-l-d\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/a-friendship-fractured\/\">http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/a-friendship-fractured\/<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As you can see in all the links both UBF chapters are still fundamentally UBF. UBF has become like a car that has become a lemon.<\/p>\n<p>That is why I believe UBF should be shut down for good never to resurface. As far as the application of arrestment here is an outline of how the arrestment should be conducted. (Note: This is an outline)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">Spreading awareness of the atrocities and crimes of UBF<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">Getting media and 3rd parties involved<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">Having all the UBF perpetrators go to court and await trial<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">All of the survivors &amp; Victims get professional help, support groups, and led to healthy churchs<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Here below is Ben Toh&#8217;s and Wikigoat&#8217;s articles on reforming UBF and the origins of the Westloop church:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2013\/06\/05\/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-ubf\/index.html\">http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2013\/06\/05\/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-ubf\/index.html<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2014\/12\/15\/west-loop-ubf-2008-2014\/index.html\">http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2014\/12\/15\/west-loop-ubf-2008-2014\/index.html<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2013\/05\/03\/telling-the-truth-how-west-loop-ubf-began\/index.html\">http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2013\/05\/03\/telling-the-truth-how-west-loop-ubf-began\/index.html<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2013\/08\/20\/lets-reform-ubf\/index.html\">http:\/\/ubfriends.net\/archive2015\/2013\/08\/20\/lets-reform-ubf\/index.html<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So what do you believe? Do you think that UBF should be shut down for good or maybe it should go through change? Was there any points\/arguments, or evidence that I may have missed? 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