In part 2 I will reveal what happened after I left, what I did besides these articles, and why I’m doing what I am doing.
There were many things that happened after I left and many things I did. So here are the main events and actions that happened.
On Dec 26, 2016 at night Elva Aldrete came to my house to harass my family to go to the conference. My sister only agreed in the end in hopes that Elva would stop harassing my family. If Elva just wanted to ask all she needed to do was text my sister and let her make that decision by herself. Not harass my entire family late that night. To this day my family is overall still deeply hurt by Elva’s actions. My sister revealed to me recently that the only reason she went to the conference was in hopes that Elva would stop harassing my family.
On March 1, 2017 when I was heading to class at CSUDH in the LSU at passed by Clifford “Ty” Rothrock, Rothrock out of the blue threatened to call the cops on me. [This was John Baik’s command to all the seniors: if they see any ex-member anywhere that they must threatened them.]
If you were to ask Rothrock and Elva about these events they will do some of the following:
- Refuse to talk about it
- Change the subject
- Avoid eye contact
- attempt to justify with some bible verse/passage.
Since those events I have made up my mind to continue breaking the silence and expose the atrocities, classified intel, and all of the church’s secrets
At this point the church will blame Rothrock and Elva for the church’s downfall and treat them as nobodies if they haven’t already.
Earlier this month I was able to track down Chris Mueller, Rothrock’s original bible teacher. I asked Chris for his side of the story. When I heard his story I was moved by his words and was appalled by the lies and deception of John Baik and his cronies (the seniors).
As for what I was doing after I left besides writing articles on ubfriends I did the following:
- destroyed all my notes that contained UBF theology
- visited a Christian church that was both healthy and genuine
- rebuilding my personality
- connecting with the first group that left in 2010-2011 and hearing their side of the story
- letting my health recover
I may explain the details of the things mentioned above in the future but I’m still not sure.
Additional notes: As of this article I completely cut off all communication from ALL the seniors. For they lost my trust completely.
As I was explaining to some current members earlier this month I cannot be part of a ministry that condones and practices betrayal, threats, and the like.
To this day my family hasn’t received a written apology from the seniors, John Baik, and Elva.
Greetings brethren. I guess this similar tactic of rudeness and hassment is followed in general by this ‘church”. I really understand how you all feel, I have been through this also recently. Although the ‘leading missionaries’ completely ignored me after I left, they didn;t even send a simple message by email like ‘What happened?” showing me in this way how much they despised me and how much a useless nothing was to them, neverthreless, they sent their ‘agents’ like ‘local shephards’ who very rudely and disrespectfuly treat me and also my family. One of them is a ‘potential native shephardess’ who had sent me a particularly brutal message calling me indirectly ‘not serious person’ ‘not in faith’ etc. She is 20+ years younger than me. I was shocked to read her message, I never expected this behavor, esp from her, whom I have defended many times in our ‘bible study – gossib’ meetings when she was strictly negatively judged by the ‘brethren’ for her looks as a woman.
Please allow me to express my concerns. In my case and in some other cases I have read in this site, I see that UBF follows an unclear tactic of not showing directly their bullying behaviour. Sometimes it is masked and presented as a polite underestimation and kind despising, belittling and humiliating whoever doesn;t fit the required standards of external appearance and profile status and also the degree of absolute obedience to UBF rules. I confess I m still confused sometimes because is such a perfect manner of propaganda I guess, they have adjusted these UBF regulation and law to bible quoting, so spiritually and abused people like myself can sometimes feel doubt and guit and pain. I am so sorry to confess this, but trully I still suffer from extremely depression and stress though I left almost two months ago. Please brethren lat’s pray God help us all.
Hi Junksheep,
You are not alone in your struggles. I too suffered after leaving. I left UBF on October 31, 2016.
You are correct, the harassment and propaganda by UBF unfortunately still exists to this day.
Recently since leaving my anger has for the most part have been flushed out. However I still need the guidance of the Holy Spirit for the journey to come.
If you or anyone else want to have a chat I’ll leave my contact:
email: navas.eric3@gmail.com
twitter: https://twitter.com/EricDNavas2?lang=en
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eric.navas42
Thank you all on ubfriends and ex-members for your support and godly love