The leader of the UBF Chapter I use to go to has a daughter named S.B.
I first meet her at the Spring 2014 bible conference where I introduced myself to her and shook hands with her. She was kind and friendly. Overtime I developed a bond with her. Some time after my awakening of seeing the “fantasy turn horror” at the wedding on Jan 10, 2015 we still talk and the truth is she not only treated me as a human being but as an equal.
But during this time the Seniors and the chapter leader would hover me and S.B. like aircraft drones in fact the pastor would stare at or in slang terms “mad dog” me whenever me or S.B. strive a conversation. The conversations I had with her have always been about the bible. The only exception is when S.B. and I talk about books which turn out to be a passion we both shared. Some of those books are The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged both by Ayn Rand.
Then on a Friday evening my former bible teacher dragged me to be interrogated by the chapter director and as I went S.B. passed me by and her eyes were red and watery for she was about ready to cry. At the interrogation the chapter director forbade me to stay away from her and to never talk to S.B. ever again.
Since that time S.B. has changed. Before she was frolic and enthusiastic but later on she started showing her true thoughts and feelings when no one else is looking or when it is just me and her.She would have a long face when she looks at me. Her eyes are filled agony, emotionally distraught, and melancholy. To this day her eyes still are. She even tries to take a quick glance at me when I’m not looking even when I ditch the mission meeting after Sunday service which stood out to me for everyone else is focused on singing the hymns yet she wasn’t.
Eddie, this is so very sad and in fact unnecessary. Clearly the painful exit process at UBF chapters, even at a “reformed” chapter like El Camino UBF aka Shepherd’s church, is a sign of cultic manipulation.
“She never responded.” Yes, the silence is maddening. Those who were supposedly so close and “spiritual family” suddenly go into absolute silence.
The evil of these actions is stunning. Kudos to you for having the courage to leave. I am glad to hear that so many are now leaving UBF in California.
That chapter was never a “reformed” UBF chapter. The seniors would say that it is unique compared to UBF but that is baloney. It is no different then the rest of UBF. In fact the chapter was reviewed not once but 4 times by current and ex-members on yelp: https://www.yelp.com/biz/shepherds-church-gardena & https://www.yelp.com/not_recommended_reviews/shepherds-church-gardena
The chapter director of that fact actual has a surveillance camera inside his home by S.B.’s door. I know this for I went into his house once to use the restroom. What kind of Christian parent who entrusts God would do that to their own children?
Wow security cameras? Good to know. In ubf staff meetings El Camino has at times been portrayed as “most successful” and gives the apppetance of being reformed. Not surprising that this is just another deception.
the Lord has declared that overdeceivers shall be overdeceived & overdeceived shall be overenlightened, continually
If I said what I really thought about this in clear terms I would be banned. Eddie if my comment is inappropriate please delete or edit it. I mean no disrespect towards you by this but disrespect towards the elders so do not take it the wrong way. I think these elders are repressed closet pervs who psychologically project their perversion on to other people, as I will try to explain in the most delicate way I can on this forum without ignoring the issue altogether.
I think they are trying to say it is wrong for two unmarried people to like someone of the opposite gender
I am tempted to take this also that there are other implications related to liking someone that means you should be separate but actually that would have meant you should be United together if that is what you both wanted and maybe just maybe only someone teaching a doctrine of demons would forbid such a thing
I experienced something like Tom did in Churches that abuse by Enroth but I am not sure I can quote it here
I already wrote extensively about my Tom like experience and what is wrong with their objection to liking people elsewhere, actually in multiple articles
But maybe you meant just friends and none of what I say applies
But then I wonder why they can not believe that a man can be a friend with a woman without being a mad dog
What if these old men who are criticising you are mad dogs themselves so they can not imagine the perspective of a man who is not a mad dog. More over maybe they like this woman but will not admit it because it would be embarrassing given their old age and position of leadership, so they assume you like her.
25 To the faithful you show yourself faithful,
to the blameless you show yourself blameless,
26 to the pure you show yourself pure,
but to the devious you show yourself shrewd.
New American Standard 1977
And in all this, they are surprised that you do not run with them into the same excess of dissipation, and they malign you;
Actually I like the idea of security cameras. They can be used for good not just evil. The problem is not security cameras but the character of the person.